think what you've seen the last week is more where he really would be when it comes to governing. i think he's had to do a lot of things. he's had to pretend in a way that's damaged his image and his credibility. he's had to pretend to get conservatives excited. now conservatives are so frustrated with the campaign they'll take anything, they'll even take a moderate mitt so he has extreme flexibility for the next couple of weeks. and he has to seize the moment. >> well, i've got to tell you, i was excited, mika, during the debate, two things i saw. one, him focusing on how he was bipartisan, how he got things done in massachusetts, how it made me meet with democratic leaders every monday. i loved that. americans love that. they're hungry for that and i'm so glad he did it. that's one. and two, i loved it, i said it yesterday, i will say it today, i loved him saying i will not cut a tax that will raise the national deficit. now, everybody can obsess on his 87 -- and obsess on what he said during the primaries. but that sent a message to me, jim vandehei. >> of the philosophy. >> that
